Tuesday, June 24, 2008

You don't ask, you don't get

I didn't label this a "Random Thought" because it does pertain somewhat to motherhood...at least becoming a mom has caused me to learn more about the health care industry than I ever knew before, and the more I learn the more I shake my head. Of course I'm no expert in this field, preferring instead to watch the weather outside, but when you receive a bill for some medical related expense just about every day in the mail (or so it seems), you're kinda forced to sit up and take notice about why your cash flow suddenly dries up....

Backing up a little bit, when we were in Virginia, my husband worked for a large company with pretty good health insurance options. Our premium per month was reasonable but not cheap, and I had great maternity coverage when I was pregnant with Jack. In fact I think from start to finish, including all the office visits, test, ultrasounds, hospital delivery with epidural, and post-natal checkups, we paid somewhere between $2oo to $300 all thanks to our insurance, even though in some sense we were paying for more of those costs through our premium every month (of which Bob's company paid a pretty good slice).

So fast forward to this baby, and things aren't so rosy for our pocketbook this time around. Bob works for a very small company now that does not offer health insurance. They do help with a Flexible Spending Account and a certain amount per month to help us cover the cost of our own individual insurance plan, but we don't have nearly the coverage with this plan that we did with the prior insurance plan. In fact we have NO maternity coverage at all, and cannot even use maternity expenses to meet our deductible. Bob said apparently most individual insurance plans in TX don't offer maternity coverage...I guess no one figured people in Texas might want to have children without having to shell out thousands to do so?

The one good thing (and in another way not so good) is that since we don't have coverage for all of these maternity bills, we can ask for a cash discount. As our realtor reminded us when we bought our house, "You don't ask, you don't get!" I can't tell you how much we've saved by doing this. For example...if we had maternity coverage, my last ultrasound would have been billed to our insurance company for $500. We were told this was amount we owed out of pocket. Since we asked for the discount, instead of paying $500, it ended up being somewhere closer to $200! Same thing with some of the standard testing I had done at the beginning of my pregnancy...we got 50% knocked off the bill because we were paying in cash.

So the "in another way not so good part" comes in when we started thinking about the discrepancy between what we've paid in cash and what would have been billed to an insurance company. In the case of the ultrasound, about $300! Either way, there was no difference in the level of service performed whether we paid for cash or had insurance, so why is the price jacked up over 100%? If the price for us was around $200, which was probably a better reflection of the true cost of the service anyway, why isn't that the price billed to the insurance company? No wonder insurance premiums are so high! Yeesh!!!

I'd like to say I'll step down off my soapboax now, but since this problem doesn't appear likely to go away anytime soon, I might be up here awhile...

5 comments:

E said...

OK, just so you know, the office may bill that much, but they won't get it. There are insurance negotiated prices for everything, in fact, they may recover less than you actually paid. Also, if you didn't pay on the spot, they would charge you the higher amount because you never know if you bill someone how much you will recover. It is all a game, but keep asking and always pay on the spot, you get a bigger discount that way.

Erin

Tuck said...

In the Old Testament, God used locust plagues; today he uses pregnancies without insurance. The solution is the same, “Repent and return to the Promised Land and all will be well.”

Unknown said...

It won’t help much for your current pregnancy, but if you need to re-examine your health insurance options in the future, you might want to consider working through a licensed agent. There may be some individually-purchased health insurance plans out there that would cover maternity benefits. An agent who represents more than one insurance company can help you get an idea of what’s available, and there are no extra fees involved.

If you want to take a look for yourself, you can also visit eHealthInsurance.com, where I work. You can get quotes from different insurance companies and compare plan details to see which ones cover maternity care. If you wanted to talk with one of our licensed agents you can reach us 1-800-977-8860.

Best of luck,

Amir M, licensed agent

looneybinmom said...

I knew you'd set me straight Erin :) We have learned quickly to pay on the spot (or within 30 days or whatever) so we can save some serious money.

And yes Tuck, we did return to the Promise Land....Texas! I can see that big eye roll of yours from here....

starlightmommy said...

Kate, this is Jill from your MOPs group. When we found out we were expecting with Wren it was the day before we were going to add maternity to my existing individual health insurance (my husband's company is small too and they completely cover him but as for us it was about 1,000 a month, haha we will find our own for that price). So I too paid the cash price for my doctor, my hospital, the ultrasound, the epidural. Now with that said we paid about $2000 (and we paid nothing for our insurance because we worked for the state (not Texas or less with Otto all said and done. With Wren we paid $6850 all said and done. My insurance company (Humana) does offer maternity care at a premium of $274 (some odd number like that) per month and it MUST be in effect at least 1 month prior to use (so you can't be pregnant at the time of sign up). When you figure it all in $274 for at least 10 months and then still pay the deductible and still pay the 20% or 25% whatever it was then we came out either ahead or about the same.

I do understand. I have been there. I am still "paying off" her bills as we had to borrow money.

My advice: go talk to the hospital now. Pre-register. Ask for a cash discount. I pre-registered 10 days before Wren was born and paid up front. Had I not done that my check in at the hospital would have been stalled because I hadn't preregistered and I had no insurance, even though they would have still taken me it would have been a more miserable process because they would have needed so much info.

And for taking another class....I didn't. I took one with Otto. I too had an epidural. Wren's birth was easier then my first. You just remember the stuff if needed.